Jesus or Jesus

R.Merle Lavengood 10/23/06

As I watch the Republican Religious right jump up and down about the secularists destroying the country and the need to return to the Christian values this country was founded on it makes my head spin in disbelief. The most important thing that this country was founded on was the absolute need to keep religion separated from the government. The whole reason for coming to the new country was to escape the tyranny imposed by all the religious controlled governments of Europe. Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion and the choice to worship or not as you like.

There is a Christian wave of fanaticism that is on track to turn this country into exactly what the founding fathers spent long hours framing the foundation of America to avoid. There are little or no rights left for the non-Christian in this country.

As a non-Christian you are forced to endure a day to day life of having the cross shoved down your throat. It is assumed that the Christian God is real and the only God and you either accept it or accept it. Those are your 2 choices in America today.

Your children are forced as I was to pledge allegiance to the Christian man-god at school and any sports functions. To be required to participate in prayer sessions etc. This is not freedom of religion. Schools are canceling Halloween parties because the Born-Agains are protesting the cardboard witches because they are non Christian symbols and thus not allowed in public.

The same people that argue that religious symbols such as the cross and nativity scenes are protected on public property under freedom of speach demand the removal of anything they feel to be of a different "pagan" religion. Libraries are being forced to destroy copies of Harry Potter because it doesn’t preach Jesus.

Science museums are forced to keep the true age of the universe and Earth out of their lessons because it proves the Bible is a fairytale and thus unacceptable to the religious right. There is an army growing as we speak of brainwashed Bible children being taught to accept dieing for Jesus just as Muslim kids die for Mohamed. The war for America is alive and about to explode out of the extremist churches across this nation.

The argument that this country was founded on Christian values is easily debunked by anyone that has studied the Bible, leaving all but a few Christians unqualified to debate the subject. The Bible is the most read and the least studied book in the history of man. The Christian masses preach that the founding fathers formed our laws on the teachings of the Bible. That has never made any sense as a sound argument for a Jesus freak controled Whitehouse although we now have one.

Christian/Bible values:

Marriage: Christian/Bible values hold that a man can have as many wives and concubines as he has the patience to put up with. This doesn’t seem to reflect our American “Christian” based laws.

The Bible belt states hold the Holier than thou honor of a divorce rate over twice that of the so call secular states. That doesn’t sound like a family values program this country needs nor does it sound like the Bible thumpers are practicing what they preach. The Bible also demands the death of anyone involved in incest and anyone that has taken a drive through the South can see that little law of God was lost in the translation also.

Although in the defense of the Bible it does hold the secret to cutting the divorce rate to nil if only the people who maintain that our courts and laws are based on the teachings of the bible were actually right.


20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

No divorce lawyers, just a pile of large stones out in the front yard and all is good!

Women’s Rights: All the main figures within the bibles such as Noah, Abraham, David, Solomon, Joshua, Samson, and Gideon are men. In the bible women almost always hold positions of subservience. Men take them at will and lord over them as they please. Eve was only created by the holy magic wand because Adam couldn't get any of the other animal's to do the dirty work for him. No rights, no problem, just as God wishes. So Christian values dictates that all women shut up and act as the slave God made them to be. God's law, who are we to argue...


3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Raising children: This country does have a problem with the liberal/secularists position of never telling your kids no and the outlawing of disciplinary spankings. We now are over run by out of control brats with a lack of respect for their parents and any figures of authority. Try and steer the little monster in the right direction and they put on a trench coat and start shooting their school up to show their displeasure with being treated like a child. Once the Religious Right finish taking over maybe we can get this Christian value reinstated.


20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

Problem solved, then maybe little Johnnie will take out the trash like he was told. Of course God tells the Christian faithful that true happiness comes from smashing your children to death on the rocks so that seems to take care of the problem but puts the child care industry at risk at the same time.


137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Christian values sure doesn’t seem very family friendly…But it is God's teachings and God is always right I'm told.

Now this is the only Christian value I can find that this country was founded on. I have always been amazed at how Christian the Black Americans are as a whole when the Bible they worship goes into great detail demanding slavery. God wants you to have a slave. God even goes into detail on the rule around how to properly beat your slaves. Slowly beating your slaves to death is okay with God. After all, slaves are your money. Just make sure that they survive at least a day or two after the beating. Finally we have a Christian value that was honored by the founding fathers until those evil Northerner secularists took it away. The good religious people of the Bible belt even took up arms, fought and died to defend their rights given to them by God to own Black people.


21:20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

21:21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

I have to assume that once the Religious Right completely take control, the true Jesus freaks will reinstate slavery as God wishes since it is the rule of the Bible and was the law of this country until the secularist North unfairly imposed their heathen beliefs on the self proclaimed religious pure.....

Affirmative action: With the Christian rule on slavery this will no longer be a debatable issue. Remember, the spin off of the Masons, the Klu-Klux-Klan held their rallies around a giant cross for a reason. Did you notice how many Black kids were involved in the "Army of God" on the movie trailer above. I don't think their vision includes Black Americans.

If I have learned anything from studying the Bible, it is that People that believe in it get upset when they are shown the reality of what’s written within it so I’ll stop with the examples of true core Christian values here.

Lets recap, The only Christian Value we can actually put a finger on when founding this country is slavery….

The rest of the Born-again argument rests squarely on waving a cross in our face and screaming everyone is lying and are going to burn in hell if they don’t accept the love of Jesus…..

I really don’t see a major difference between the country being taken over by Muslim Extremist or Christian zealots as they are both delusional and have not allowed room for any beliefs except theirs. Either way America will not be the "land of the free" anymore.